Comments on: Spielberg to Make Live Action Ghost in the Shell http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/ Enlightenment Through Focused Rage Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:09:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Wayne http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12898 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:43:13 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12898 I just can't see Spielburg doing anime. He's too much of a "happy ending" director. Yes, we have the CGI capability to do anything. Horrible example, but look at what Ewe Boll has been able to do. 10-15+ years ago, things like that or Resident Evil 3 just couldn't be done. So we can do it, the question becomes by who and WHY. I just can’t see Spielburg doing anime. He’s too much of a “happy ending” director. Yes, we have the CGI capability to do anything. Horrible example, but look at what Ewe Boll has been able to do. 10-15+ years ago, things like that or Resident Evil 3 just couldn’t be done. So we can do it, the question becomes by who and WHY.

]]> by: Sir Unimaginative http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12891 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:34:30 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12891 @Steve: ... And Ron Perlman doesn't? You confuse me. @greg: I have no doubt that Spielberg can make a meaningful, faithful adaptation. I AM concerned about -anyone- getting it from the can to the screen, however, given the attitudes of Hollywood (and everyone else). I suspect getting it into theatres will require some measure of subversion, quite possibly a bona fide stand-alone complex. ... This could be the most 'meta' thing ever. @Steve: … And Ron Perlman doesn’t? You confuse me.

@greg: I have no doubt that Spielberg can make a meaningful, faithful adaptation. I AM concerned about -anyone- getting it from the can to the screen, however, given the attitudes of Hollywood (and everyone else). I suspect getting it into theatres will require some measure of subversion, quite possibly a bona fide stand-alone complex.

… This could be the most ‘meta’ thing ever.

]]> by: Steve http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12761 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:32:07 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12761 The Rock or Vin Diesel as Batou?!? No. Just no. Sorry Jami. Wrong wrong wrong, ad infinitum. Both those actors certainly have the body and ex-military demeanor required for the role. But I doubt either of them can capture the complexity of the character. This man has seen the skin ripped off innocent children during war and now he lives in a world where he can no longer trust that his will is his own thanks to Goda's Individual 11 virus. Yet he still manages to crack jokes and laugh at Marx Brothers films. Ron Pearlman might, MIGHT, be able to pull it off, if he doesn't stray into his nihilistic asshole characterizations. Michael Clark Duncan is also a maybe. But I'm thinking something along the lines of Andrew Divoff. He plays (played) Mikhail on Lost and I think he has the physique, face, and the mix of angst and humor needed to play Batou. The Rock or Vin Diesel as Batou?!?

No. Just no. Sorry Jami. Wrong wrong wrong, ad infinitum.

Both those actors certainly have the body and ex-military demeanor required for the role. But I doubt either of them can capture the complexity of the character. This man has seen the skin ripped off innocent children during war and now he lives in a world where he can no longer trust that his will is his own thanks to Goda’s Individual 11 virus. Yet he still manages to crack jokes and laugh at Marx Brothers films.

Ron Pearlman might, MIGHT, be able to pull it off, if he doesn’t stray into his nihilistic asshole characterizations. Michael Clark Duncan is also a maybe. But I’m thinking something along the lines of Andrew Divoff. He plays (played) Mikhail on Lost and I think he has the physique, face, and the mix of angst and humor needed to play Batou.

]]> by: Devlin http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12682 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:54:47 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12682 I'd really like to see Ron Pearlman's take on Batou. Just keep rolling in the hellboy outfit minus the red. I’d really like to see Ron Pearlman’s take on Batou. Just keep rolling in the hellboy outfit minus the red.

]]> by: greg http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12609 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:49:19 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12609 <i>And just how the hell do they pull this off!? Transhumanist discourse and unabashed eroticism are like napalm and kryptonite to the American public. You might get away with tweaking them down a bit, but any serious cuts will leave you with something that just ISN’T the Ghost in the Shell. Maybe if they sit on it for a few years they’ll have a good shot, but now isn’t the time. </i> The nice thing about Spielberg doing this is that he has enough pull to actually make the movie pretty true to the original, regardless of what the suits say. Hopefully he'll take care of the themes of the movie and not just give us a watered down action movie. And just how the hell do they pull this off!?

Transhumanist discourse and unabashed eroticism are like napalm and kryptonite to the American public.

You might get away with tweaking them down a bit, but any serious cuts will leave you with something that just ISN’T the Ghost in the Shell.

Maybe if they sit on it for a few years they’ll have a good shot, but now isn’t the time.

The nice thing about Spielberg doing this is that he has enough pull to actually make the movie pretty true to the original, regardless of what the suits say. Hopefully he’ll take care of the themes of the movie and not just give us a watered down action movie.

]]> by: Justin http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12602 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:30:17 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12602 OoO!! *dies* There is indeed a higher power!! YEESSSS!! OoO!!

*dies*
There is indeed a higher power!! YEESSSS!!

]]> by: Zortkiya http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12433 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:20:43 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12433 So long as they got the super pony tail of Batou like in S.A.C I guess I could see either of them doing it. So long as they got the super pony tail of Batou like in S.A.C I guess I could see either of them doing it.

]]> by: Sir Unimaginative http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12422 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:40:10 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12422 And just how the hell do they pull this off!? Transhumanist discourse and unabashed eroticism are like napalm and kryptonite to the American public. You might get away with tweaking them down a bit, but any serious cuts will leave you with something that just ISN'T the Ghost in the Shell. Maybe if they sit on it for a few years they'll have a good shot, but now isn't the time. And just how the hell do they pull this off!?

Transhumanist discourse and unabashed eroticism are like napalm and kryptonite to the American public.

You might get away with tweaking them down a bit, but any serious cuts will leave you with something that just ISN’T the Ghost in the Shell.

Maybe if they sit on it for a few years they’ll have a good shot, but now isn’t the time.

]]> by: Jami http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12407 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:08:44 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12407 I like The Rock or Vin Diesel for Batou. Togusa has to be someone good. I like The Rock or Vin Diesel for Batou. Togusa has to be someone good.

]]> by: Zortkiya http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12403 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:46:45 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/04/15/spielberg-to-make-live-action-ghost-in-the-shell/#comment-12403 I would second the vote on the Maggie Q for Motoko. Though I would wonder who would be a good Batou and Tougasa. I would second the vote on the Maggie Q for Motoko. Though I would wonder who would be a good Batou and Tougasa.

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