Comments on: None More Dark http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/ Enlightenment Through Focused Rage Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:36:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Geek Entertainment News and Commentary - Angry Zen Master http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36800 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:47:11 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36800 [...] You know what, though, I ain’t mad at Downey, Jr. Although I think he’s screwed himself out of working with Warner Brothers on pretty much anything, I totally respect him for speaking his mind. And honestly, lately, DC Comics just haven’t been holding up. How many Crisis events can one universe go through? Ugh. My love for Dark Knight is well documented, but I can see where he’s coming from. I don’t agree. But I can see it. [...] […] You know what, though, I ain’t mad at Downey, Jr. Although I think he’s screwed himself out of working with Warner Brothers on pretty much anything, I totally respect him for speaking his mind. And honestly, lately, DC Comics just haven’t been holding up. How many Crisis events can one universe go through? Ugh. My love for Dark Knight is well documented, but I can see where he’s coming from. I don’t agree. But I can see it. […]

]]> by: Lurklen http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36385 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:00:42 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36385 I thought it was fantastic, the bat-voice botherd me at the beginning but then it seemed to fit perfectly. And Heath Ledger's preformance was absoloutly jaw dropping, you just could'nt tell it was him after awhile it was just the Joker on screen, which of course makes his death all the more sad. As for future villans I like what they did with the little cameo at the beginning of this film we could definetly see that happening again with Two-face. @Rosie- I don't know if I was liveing in a place like gotham, during that time of chaos and one man, one government offical no less was leading the charge against all the curruption and doing it the right way with out a mask. And all of a sudden I find out this paragon of law and order went on a grief driven killing spree, I'd lose the little hope I had left. I thought it was fantastic, the bat-voice botherd me at the beginning but then it seemed to fit perfectly. And Heath Ledger’s preformance was absoloutly jaw dropping, you just could’nt tell it was him after awhile it was just the Joker on screen, which of course makes his death all the more sad.

As for future villans I like what they did with the little cameo at the beginning of this film we could definetly see that happening again with Two-face.

@Rosie- I don’t know if I was liveing in a place like gotham, during that time of chaos and one man, one government offical no less was leading the charge against all the curruption and doing it the right way with out a mask. And all of a sudden I find out this paragon of law and order went on a grief driven killing spree, I’d lose the little hope I had left.

]]> by: Tyler http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36351 Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:11:35 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36351 after seeing it for a third time, i have to ask, did anybody else have a malcom in the middle Stevie flashback when Batman would talk while he's out of breath? "Sometimes, *deep breath* truth isn't *deep breath* good enough. *deep breath* sometimes *deep breath* people deserve more. *deep breath* after seeing it for a third time, i have to ask, did anybody else have a malcom in the middle Stevie flashback when Batman would talk while he’s out of breath?

“Sometimes, *deep breath* truth isn’t *deep breath* good enough. *deep breath* sometimes *deep breath* people deserve more. *deep breath*

]]> by: Rosie http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36314 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:22:35 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36314 The movie was excellent, but it could have been superb if it were not for the extremely flawed finale. Shame, really. What I didn't like about the finale? For one, the ferryboat scenario. I found it contrived. I'm speaking of the fact that the people on both boats refused to kill each other in the end. Either Nolan has a higher view of humanity or he wants the moviegoers to adopt this view. I don't know. My view of humanity is a lot lower. And I feel it would have been more realistic if someone had detonated one of the boats. Or both. I also disliked Batman and Gordon's decision to lie to the public about Harvey Dent's murderous rampage. I found this scenario rather ridiculous. It seemed ludicrous to me that Batman and Gordon actually believed that the citizens of Gotham would freak out over the news that Harvey Dent sought revenge against those he believed were responsible for Rachel's death. What was Chris Nolan thinking? That Gotham's cities were children incapable of dealing with the truth? Was that his true message? Perhaps it is. Because it seems that Nolan is incapable of facing the truth about humanity, himself. The ferryboat sequence is a prime example of this. <i>"As for Rachel Dawes, Maggie Gyllenhaal is wonderful. There’s real chemistry between her and Bale, something completely missing from Katie Holmes’s performance. Almost wish there was more of her."</i> I had failed to see any real chemistry between Gyllenhaal and Bale. I saw chemistry between her and Aaron Eckhart, but not with Bale. On the other hand, I saw plenty of chemistry between Bale and Katie Holmes in "BATMAN BEGINS" (I saw the movie two days before I saw "THE DARK KNIGHT"). I also feel that Holmes had the advantage in that her Rachel Dawes was slightly better written than Gyllenhaal's. Both actresses gave solid performances, but I believe that Gyllenhaal's Rachel ended up being nothing more than an object and nothing else. Her Rachel seemed to lack the fire and fighting spirit that was present in Holmes' Rachel. I think this was due to the writing. The movie was excellent, but it could have been superb if it were not for the extremely flawed finale. Shame, really.

What I didn’t like about the finale? For one, the ferryboat scenario. I found it contrived. I’m speaking of the fact that the people on both boats refused to kill each other in the end. Either Nolan has a higher view of humanity or he wants the moviegoers to adopt this view. I don’t know. My view of humanity is a lot lower. And I feel it would have been more realistic if someone had detonated one of the boats. Or both.

I also disliked Batman and Gordon’s decision to lie to the public about Harvey Dent’s murderous rampage. I found this scenario rather ridiculous. It seemed ludicrous to me that Batman and Gordon actually believed that the citizens of Gotham would freak out over the news that Harvey Dent sought revenge against those he believed were responsible for Rachel’s death. What was Chris Nolan thinking? That Gotham’s cities were children incapable of dealing with the truth? Was that his true message? Perhaps it is. Because it seems that Nolan is incapable of facing the truth about humanity, himself. The ferryboat sequence is a prime example of this.

“As for Rachel Dawes, Maggie Gyllenhaal is wonderful. There’s real chemistry between her and Bale, something completely missing from Katie Holmes’s performance. Almost wish there was more of her.”

I had failed to see any real chemistry between Gyllenhaal and Bale. I saw chemistry between her and Aaron Eckhart, but not with Bale. On the other hand, I saw plenty of chemistry between Bale and Katie Holmes in “BATMAN BEGINS” (I saw the movie two days before I saw “THE DARK KNIGHT”). I also feel that Holmes had the advantage in that her Rachel Dawes was slightly better written than Gyllenhaal’s. Both actresses gave solid performances, but I believe that Gyllenhaal’s Rachel ended up being nothing more than an object and nothing else. Her Rachel seemed to lack the fire and fighting spirit that was present in Holmes’ Rachel. I think this was due to the writing.

]]> by: greg http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36305 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:23:26 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36305 @MikeyD - His pseudo-lisp both as Bruce and Batsy was a little odd to me. Especially when coupled with the distortion of the Batman persona. @MikeyD - His pseudo-lisp both as Bruce and Batsy was a little odd to me. Especially when coupled with the distortion of the Batman persona.

]]> by: Jami http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36304 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:04:53 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36304 @MikeyD, yeah probably true. But I did feel a little under represented. I'll have a longer blog about this sometime in the future. Still waiting for the summer to cool down, although, what movies are there to look forward to now that we have Dark Knight? @MikeyD, yeah probably true. But I did feel a little under represented. I’ll have a longer blog about this sometime in the future. Still waiting for the summer to cool down, although, what movies are there to look forward to now that we have Dark Knight?

]]> by: Mikey D, The Movie Nerd http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36303 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:39:54 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36303 Oh and Morgan Freeman doesn't count as a minority any more? And Ritchie Coster who plays a major part (though not enough to be named....) as a Chechen? And it's Gambol (Michael Jai White's crime boss character) for those who pay attention to credits :P And what about the hot Russian Ballet chicks, both a minority, AND hot chick bodies in bikinis! Ok... ok... I'm reaching here... but so are you Jami! :D Oh and Morgan Freeman doesn’t count as a minority any more?
And Ritchie Coster who plays a major part (though not enough to be named….) as a Chechen?
And it’s Gambol (Michael Jai White’s crime boss character) for those who pay attention to credits :P
And what about the hot Russian Ballet chicks, both a minority, AND hot chick bodies in bikinis!

Ok… ok… I’m reaching here… but so are you Jami! :D

]]> by: Mikey D, The Movie Nerd http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36302 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:32:57 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36302 Yeah man, I wrote a review for this, but I felt I had to leave it so open ended so as not to spoil it for any one! But I agree with your whole assessment as well! Also I liked the new Gotham as well, even though it was just Chicago, and they didn't go through any real lengths to cover that fact up. All the buildings had that Mid-West feel to them, and if you look at the license plate of the cars they showed that read "Gotham City" they're written in the same font as Illinois license plates. I didn't notice that until the second time through though. Check out my review, but I gave it a solid A+. There were a few things that it could have done to achieve the coveted "Movie Nerd ranking <b><i>S!</i></b>" but they were so minor I almost gave it that... Did any one else think Christian Bale's Bat-voice was a little too breathy and over done this time around? Yeah man, I wrote a review for this, but I felt I had to leave it so open ended so as not to spoil it for any one! But I agree with your whole assessment as well! Also I liked the new Gotham as well, even though it was just Chicago, and they didn’t go through any real lengths to cover that fact up. All the buildings had that Mid-West feel to them, and if you look at the license plate of the cars they showed that read “Gotham City” they’re written in the same font as Illinois license plates. I didn’t notice that until the second time through though.
Check out my review, but I gave it a solid A+.
There were a few things that it could have done to achieve the coveted “Movie Nerd ranking S!” but they were so minor I almost gave it that…
Did any one else think Christian Bale’s Bat-voice was a little too breathy and over done this time around?

]]> by: Jami http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36299 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:53:57 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36299 @Jack, oh man, Tiny was so brilliant. He had such a small scene, but that was such a moving performance. And what a statement, a hardened criminal knows the right decision as soon as it's posed yet it takes a boat full of normal citizens arguing for them to figure it all out. And even then, they get it wrong. @Jack, oh man, Tiny was so brilliant. He had such a small scene, but that was such a moving performance. And what a statement, a hardened criminal knows the right decision as soon as it’s posed yet it takes a boat full of normal citizens arguing for them to figure it all out. And even then, they get it wrong.

]]> by: Jack T Robyn http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36297 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:10:55 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2008/07/21/none-more-dark/#comment-36297 One more minority for you: Tom Lister, Jr. The focus is so on our main four characters, all white males, the others do blend into the back readily. This is, truly, a peak. I am amazed, yet saddened. There's nowhere to go from here but Ewoks. One more minority for you: Tom Lister, Jr.

The focus is so on our main four characters, all white males, the others do blend into the back readily.

This is, truly, a peak. I am amazed, yet saddened. There’s nowhere to go from here but Ewoks.

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