Comments on: Dollhouse Foreclosed http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2009/11/18/dollhouse-foreclosed/ Enlightenment Through Focused Rage Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:24:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Kevin http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2009/11/18/dollhouse-foreclosed/#comment-48116 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:19:00 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2009/11/18/dollhouse-foreclosed/#comment-48116 Although putting it on Friday night probably hurt it. I know I watch a movie with some buddies then stay up till 2am to watch lock and load. Then I go to Hulu for SGU. That's the bulk of my television experience. Sorry TV, the internet is just too much better at entertaining me. Although putting it on Friday night probably hurt it. I know I watch a movie with some buddies then stay up till 2am to watch lock and load. Then I go to Hulu for SGU. That’s the bulk of my television experience. Sorry TV, the internet is just too much better at entertaining me.

]]> by: Lurklen http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2009/11/18/dollhouse-foreclosed/#comment-48112 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:59:02 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2009/11/18/dollhouse-foreclosed/#comment-48112 I agree with pretty much everything you said. I really wonder how good the following seasons of Firefly would have been. I loved that show but the expectations have become so high I don't know if it could of lived up to it, or that any show could. And now all the fans of Whedon are expecting that, and that's a tough thing to pull off. Though to be fair I don't think Dollhouse was ever going to be that successor, it just wasn't good enough. Maybe because of fox tampering with it to make it sexier or just because it never really found it's voice. Either way it ws a flawed series right from the start, and was doomed to fail. I agree with pretty much everything you said. I really wonder how good the following seasons of Firefly would have been. I loved that show but the expectations have become so high I don’t know if it could of lived up to it, or that any show could. And now all the fans of Whedon are expecting that, and that’s a tough thing to pull off.

Though to be fair I don’t think Dollhouse was ever going to be that successor, it just wasn’t good enough. Maybe because of fox tampering with it to make it sexier or just because it never really found it’s voice. Either way it ws a flawed series right from the start, and was doomed to fail.

]]> by: Kunoichi http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2009/11/18/dollhouse-foreclosed/#comment-48109 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:51:00 +0000 http://www.angryzenmaster.com/2009/11/18/dollhouse-foreclosed/#comment-48109 I haven't been following Dollhouse since halfway through the first season, mostly because I've been spoiled by anime and so generally watch things once they're finished at my own pace. I liked what I saw and I'll get around to watching all of it next year, I suppose. But, I don't know if anyone noticed, Whedon doesn't make the "season 1 is this story, and that is it, we won't cover that ground again" type of show. Ignore Firefly, and you've got Buffy and Angel. Both of which were slow-building shows that didn't really start digging deeply until around their 3rd seasons. I think Dollhouse was meant to be like that. Firefly is an exception to the usual Whedon pacing of depth. On the other hand, it was also the exception in that it was one of the only premises in which a faster pace would work really well. Dollhouse has the potential to be just as dark, but it's full of surface vs. truth to dig through first. Firefly starts you off with raw characters and a raw 'verse. I think Whedon is suffering from expectations. Everyone keeps expecting Firefly, and not Buffy. And Firefly wasn't finished, which means everyone is expecting the *potential* that was Firefly, which is even worse than expecting Firefly. I haven’t been following Dollhouse since halfway through the first season, mostly because I’ve been spoiled by anime and so generally watch things once they’re finished at my own pace. I liked what I saw and I’ll get around to watching all of it next year, I suppose.

But, I don’t know if anyone noticed, Whedon doesn’t make the “season 1 is this story, and that is it, we won’t cover that ground again” type of show. Ignore Firefly, and you’ve got Buffy and Angel. Both of which were slow-building shows that didn’t really start digging deeply until around their 3rd seasons. I think Dollhouse was meant to be like that.

Firefly is an exception to the usual Whedon pacing of depth. On the other hand, it was also the exception in that it was one of the only premises in which a faster pace would work really well. Dollhouse has the potential to be just as dark, but it’s full of surface vs. truth to dig through first. Firefly starts you off with raw characters and a raw ‘verse.

I think Whedon is suffering from expectations. Everyone keeps expecting Firefly, and not Buffy. And Firefly wasn’t finished, which means everyone is expecting the *potential* that was Firefly, which is even worse than expecting Firefly.

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